(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[7200]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[Open Round 5 Board 1 - Yongfei Ge 7d (w) vs Dae Hyuk (Daniel) Ko 7d (b)]PW[Yongfei Ge]PB[Dae Hyuk (Daniel) Ko]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2011-08-05]EV[2011 US Open]RO[5]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dennis Wheeler]C[USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the AGA E-Journal's live coverage of the 2011 US Open taking place at the US Go Congress in Santa Barbara, CA.  This is round 5, board 1.  I'm Dennis Wheeler, your game recorder this morning.
mw2a [1k\]: go, dan ko!
geyingbin [1d\]: too excited
mw2a [1k\]: can you hide it, please?
geyingbin [1d\]: no I am just a kid
lolp [15k?\]: is this the last round?
geyingbin [1d\]: who knows
eurogotv [-\]: live tv broadcast of this game on http://EuroGoTV.com
eurogotv [-\]: no login today
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pq]C[mw2a [1k\]: no simple chat :-(
]
;W[qd]C[eurogotv [-\]: no, the chat made these huge problems i have now
]
;B[dd]
;W[cp]
;B[qo]C[USGO1 [-\]: While the players were setting their clock, they started it before they were ready. Daniel lost 6 secs. He said that would be ok
]
;W[fq]
;B[oc]C[mw2a [1k\]: w=t
]
;W[kc]
;B[cj]
;W[fc]
;B[df]C[baltimore [3k\]: this is a simple chat    vv
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;W[pc]
;B[od]
;W[qf]C[mw2a [1k\]: ^^
Gelya [1k\]: it is going to be fighty game
CFrog [4k\]: what best move to upgrade b's shimari?
CFrog [4k\]: l3 ?
lolp [15k?\]: first deal with top
CFrog [4k\]: of course, but locally
CFrog [4k\]: now
]
;B[hd]C[mw2a [1k\]: k3 still probably
CFrog [4k\]: thanks
]
;W[fe]C[yzal: 7d according to us rating? i thought it went upto 6?
mw2a [1k\]: no, 7 max
]
;B[gc]C[yzal: was it always like that?
lolp [15k?\]: y
]
;W[fb]
;B[db]C[Danzo [6k\]: oh, i'm waiting for this for so long
lolp [15k?\]: k3 not so imteresting i think.
mw2a [1k\]: not with the top unsettled
]
;W[fg]
;B[gf]C[CFrog [4k\]: later it will))
MiaiPie [?\]: what does white gain out of these line of moves?
mw2a [1k\]: extensions off shimari are canonical big moves
CFrog [4k\]: he attacking b
CFrog [4k\]: but b found wery good answers
CFrog [4k\]: if i w, now i kepp head in hands
]
;W[ff]C[mw2a [1k\]: w is fine
]
;B[ke]C[CFrog [4k\]: l17 important stone which becomes very weak
CFrog [4k\]: and left wall becomes weak too
USGO1 [-\]: Several other players are just now showing up. Towards the end of the week, its gets harder to wake up on time
]
;W[le]C[lolp [15k?\]: it's after 9am...
sibse [1k?\]: Are they pro?
USGO1 [-\]: they're kids
sibse [1k?\]: kid?
CFrog [4k\]: how many pros lives in USA? lots?
lolp [15k?\]: usgo, do they start the clocks at a certain time if player not there yet?
mw2a [1k\]: y
mw2a [1k\]: when the TD says start
lolp [15k?\]: no snooze button on go clock?
USGO1 [-\]: Yes, after a few minutes grace period, the TD announced that clocks should be started if the opponents have not yet arrived
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei steps away from the table
schelling [22k?\]: what are the ages of these players?
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Ok, now Yongfei HAS to win.
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Because he beat Stephanie yesterday.
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Anyone know what happened with Mingjiu game yesterday?  Who won?
sibse [1k?\]: i knew Yonfei ge is canadian go player.
mw2a [1k\]: steph beat ko, so if ko beats ge... something
]
;B[ld]
;W[kd]C[BobWhoosta [1k\]: Looks like white is going to attack one side or the other here.
BobWhoosta [1k\]: But F13 stones aren't out yet either...
]
;B[md]C[norg [6k\]: Is Yongfei the only 7dan left who has won all his games? If so, I guess Daniel could still win the tournament if he wins this game.
USGO1 [-\]: Mingjiu Jiang 7p resigned to 18 year old Curtis Tang 7d in last night's Masters round 3 game
sibse [1k?\]: i think w is in trouble.
jijiji: j17 
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Wow, awesome.
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Thanks USGO.
SergeyASh [9k\]: Which table on back (with little boy)? Is it 2nd table?
BobWhoosta [1k\]: That was a great game, with stone slapping all around.
]
;W[je]
;B[kf]
;W[jf]C[sibse [1k?\]: K 13
donkeyO [7d?\]: or k16
]
;B[jd]C[marseye [9k\]: k16 souds better
simplet [3d\]: k17 + h18 for sure
USGO1 [-\]: Yes, behind me on board 2 is 13 year old ZiYang Hu 1p
Lyon [2d\]: well this started early
PeiPei15 [?\]: wow...amazing
USGO1 [-\]: Tonight's Masters final will be Curtis Tang 7d vs "The Kid", 13 year old ZiYang Hu 1p
lolp [15k?\]: wow. 13 yo 1p?
ToStrong4u [1k\]: what time would that be
BobWhoosta [1k\]: White is going to force a lot here and get some influence to kill off H16 stones?
USGO1 [-\]: The Masters tournament will begin at 7pm pacific time
Lyon [2d\]: cooooool
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Ooh, K18 works to connect.
]
;W[jg]C[Lyon [2d\]: K18 is dangerous
crazytony [3k\]: k18 w connects?
crazytony [3k\]: i dont think so..
Lyon [2d\]: K18, K17
]
;B[kg]
;W[kh]
;B[mf]C[Lyon [2d\]: J16
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Oh, missed K17.
crazytony [3k\]: exactly..
Lyon [2d\]: J17
Lyon [2d\]: J18
Lyon [2d\]: it could
Lyon [2d\]: kind of
USGO1 [-\]: 2011 US Open pairings can be found online at http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/102 . Check back for updated pairings, results and game records throughout the week.
]
;W[lh]
;B[mg]C[crazytony [3k\]: k18 k17 j17 j16 l18 j18 
Lyon [2d\]: oh but then L18 necessary
crazytony [3k\]: doesnt..
Lyon [2d\]: yeah
sibse [1k?\]: J 16
Lyon [2d\]: K17 does though
Lyon [2d\]: maybe
ToStrong4u [1k\]: ty usgo1
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Yeah, now that black L15 is alive, white might be able to sacrifice L17 stones.
USGO1 [-\]: So far Yongfei Ge 7d is the only undefeated player in the top band of the Open
crazytony [3k\]: k17 j16 h18 f16 
crazytony [3k\]: it gets omplicated with k17
Lyon [2d\]: F16, E16, 
crazytony [3k\]: complicated*
iceweasel [?\]: who did curtis lose to?
]
;W[id]
;B[jc]
;W[ic]
;B[jb]
;W[ib]
;B[kb]C[Lyon [2d\]: this is certainly simple
crazytony [3k\]: exchange
crazytony [3k\]: is best
trilobyte [?\]: curtis lost to zchen
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Can white just turn with G13?
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Or is there too much aji?
]
;W[ih]C[Lyon [2d\]: hah this does it all
Lyon [2d\]: great move
crazytony [3k\]: 0 aji now
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Yeah, great move.
largehc [?\]: good exchange
Lyon [2d\]: both are over concentrated
BobWhoosta [1k\]: White and black both satisfied here.
Lyon [2d\]: so fairly equal :P
sibse [1k?\]: L 3
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: better for white
dupre [1d?\]: r12
Lyon [2d\]: white's wall is probably a little more useful but black has sente
Timex: but b got sente
Lyon [2d\]: C7 maybe or too slow ?
mw2a [1k\]: maybe k4 or something now
crazytony [3k\]: will see how sente is used
]
;B[cn]C[BobWhoosta [1k\]: I like this move, black creates another weakness, knowing white can only really exploit one of them.
Lyon [2d\]: i woul have played C7 probably because i'm a scaredy cat
ToStrong4u [1k\]: me too lyon
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Me too.  ;-P
Lyon [2d\]: well, white's enclosure is two space instead of 1 so it's not as strong
dupre [1d?\]: timid mob would do that
Lyon [2d\]: so 3 space isn't as bad
crazytony [3k\]: naw u might as well go the full c6
crazytony [3k\]: c7 can break to
Lyon [2d\]: not really, not in the same way
crazytony [3k\]: like u can cut through it
Lyon [2d\]: you can't cut it, you can take the base though
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Hard to cut a two spacer on the side.
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Need some support for that, or for base stealer.
dupre [1d?\]: B is at least 15 points ahead of W now
crazytony [3k\]: ye but c12 weak
Lyon [2d\]: that's why you play C6/7
BobWhoosta [1k\]: One idea is you can force it low, which is probably what black wants to avoid.
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Right, C6/C7 indirectly protects C12 because the stones on both sides are stronger now.
Lyon [2d\]: yeah
Lyon [2d\]: makes the invasion less of a big deal
Lyon [2d\]: but the three  C8space opens up
Lyon [2d\]: which makes the game complicated for me
Lyon [2d\]: which is why il would play c7 :P
BobWhoosta [1k\]: It's funny because it makes the invasion less interesting, but the protection is now a bit less interesting as well.
sibse [1k?\]: w c12 is not big.
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Yeah, C8 bigger than C12 right now.
Lyon [2d\]: c12 would have been big
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Because it helps the corner.
]
;W[cl]C[Lyon [2d\]: particularly if white had gotten an extension off of his enclosure
]
;B[ch]C[BobWhoosta [1k\]: I think if white got sente to C8, that would have been sente as well.
crazytony [3k\]: oh
crazytony [3k\]: even worse now..
USGO1 [-\]: Daniel slaps that one down hard
dan2dan [1d\]: Big corner.
Lyon [2d\]: this seems fine
dan2dan [1d\]: Dayum
]
;W[dp]C[Lyon [2d\]: nah that corner won't be white's
dan2dan [1d\]: hahah
Lyon [2d\]: black could have lived in there, now he will pull C6 out or just play K3
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: pulling out c6 must be bad
USGO1 [-\]: Daniel lets out a long breath as he sits up closer to the board
crazytony [3k\]: id play k3
crazytony [3k\]: ignore c6 like he already did
]
;B[dm]
;W[dk]C[norg [6k\]: Daniel is trying to blow his stones into better shape.
crazytony [3k\]: ..
dan2dan [1d\]: lol
crazytony [3k\]: yeah but c6 is a tough  one to live without suppport
crazytony [3k\]: big wall at top
crazytony [3k\]: and far way to right
Lyon [2d\]: yeah, might have been better to leave it for aji
Lyon [2d\]: if he's going to develop it i would play G7
crazytony [3k\]: g7 like only move xD
USGO1 [-\]: Sasaki 8p walks by to observe the game for a bit
donkeyO [8d?\]: e10
dan2dan [1d\]: SASAKI
crazytony [3k\]: i really dont see any other move working well
Lyon [2d\]: E10 is one of those magic dan moes
]
;B[fm]C[crazytony [3k\]: lol
marseye [9k\]: he'd better develop the right corner
crazytony [3k\]: oh b plays the safe one
donkeyO [8d?\]: nvm no e10
]
;W[fk]C[dan2dan [1d\]: feels bad tos ave this stone
crazytony [3k\]: e10 doesn t do any thing..
]
;B[ej]C[crazytony [3k\]: well before
crazytony [3k\]: i eamnt
Lyon [2d\]: H7 seems necessary now but leaves white with sente
crazytony [3k\]: meant*
ohman: b fiesty
xio [6k\]: lol
]
;W[ek]C[crazytony [3k\]: h7 advance?
xio [6k\]: once 7d played it, it changes things, doesn't it? ;)
crazytony [3k\]: no..
dan2dan [1d\]: 7d is weak
crazytony [3k\]: order matters..
]
;B[hm]C[Lyon [2d\]: hmm
Lyon [2d\]: white is so low
Lyon [2d\]: F3 and R14
crazytony [3k\]: e10 before is weak without f7 support.\\
Lyon [2d\]: K3 looks ugly now
crazytony [3k\]: k3 makes bad shape
BobWhoosta [1k\]: White safe enough to play on the bottom?
ohman: lol tony just admit defeat
donkeyO [8d?\]: w must play bottom
BobWhoosta [1k\]: J3 is better shape, definitely.
dan2dan [1d\]: 8d spoken!
ohman: 8d?
crazytony [3k\]: not true 8d till ? gone?
]
;W[ip]C[dan2dan [1d\]: k
ZEPANCINHA [4k\]: m2 good move, they gonna play it sooner or later!
dan2dan [1d\]: how bout
dan2dan [1d\]: 8d spoken?
largehc [?\]: but you are a true 3 kyu
ohman: very good for w
crazytony [3k\]: am i?
ohman: b seems screwed
xio [6k\]: 8d? good enough for me :)
largehc [?\]: ? gone
donkeyO [8d?\]: not sure j3 or k4 was better
Lyon [2d\]: yeah black wants L3 so bad
Lyon [2d\]: or M3 even
]
;B[fi]C[dan2dan [1d\]: j3? that low?
crazytony [3k\]: j3 seems low.
donkeyO [8d?\]: pros will play j3
]
;W[hk]C[dan2dan [1d\]: o_o
Lyon [2d\]: guh this is painful for black
Lyon [2d\]: K7 then M3 for white..
crazytony [3k\]: yup long way for black to go lol
crazytony [3k\]: so risky
crazytony [3k\]: and its not helping ihm either lol
sibse [1k?\]: L3
dan2dan [1d\]: anyone else think b savig C6 was a bad idea? is c6 that big?
Lyon [2d\]: should have left it
donkeyO [8d?\]: f11 good move?
Lyon [2d\]: if white wanted to play D6 let him
Lyon [2d\]: take J3 and R9
Lyon [2d\]: aji for later if not
USGO1 [-\]: Daniel takes in and lets out a deep breath slowly
Lyon [2d\]: but i'm just measly 2d so :P
dan2dan [1d\]: yea, he's probably regretting that decision..
crazytony [3k\]: i would too lol!
crazytony [3k\]: theres nowehre to go
dan2dan [1d\]: cept extend out
crazytony [3k\]: and white gains a bigger bottom then wat b had at top left
dan2dan [1d\]: in which w gets another move on bottom
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei sits back a casually looks around the room
dan2dan [1d\]: Lol.
]
;B[fo]C[crazytony [3k\]: b tyring to threaten xd
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Yongfei's game has impressed me, both yesterday (even though I thought Stephanie was going to win), and today.
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Calm, solid, good go.
crazytony [3k\]: or maybe make an eye xd
dan2dan [1d\]: how much did he winb y yesterday, bobwhoostago?
USGO1 [-\]: But he furrows his brow a little as he now leans in for a closer look
sasasdd: any link for live video?
eurogotv [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
]
;W[gp]C[sasasdd: thanks
dan2dan [1d\]: g4 so typical
dan2dan [1d\]: k7 surely
dan2dan [1d\]: i DARE b to go bot Lol
]
;B[jm]
;W[ed]C[dan2dan [1d\]: ... intriguing
RobinUpton [6d?\]: w defend against H11 impact on top 3 stones?
RobinUpton [6d?\]: e.g. G15 threaten F16
marseye [9k\]: attacking the corner
ohman: yes
]
;B[ee]
;W[dc]
;B[cc]
;W[ec]C[marseye [9k\]: or reducing
]
;B[cb]C[Sonatine [6k\]: why i can't connect with eurotv?
eurogotv [-\]: you can now
schelling [22k?\]: you have to selecto eurogotv-us
eurogotv [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Wagaboo [-\]: is w ahead ?
schelling [22k?\]: tv1-4 doesnt seem to be live
eurogotv [-\]: normal EuroGoTV running again
ohman: w needs sente
Sonatine [6k\]: doesn't work for me
Wagaboo [-\]: w can get a big bottom while pressure b
SunnyD [2d\]: N3
tamagotchi [8k\]: i am confused by these moves.
Sonatine [6k\]: i can't go even the homepage
Wagaboo [-\]: m4 
dan2dan [1d\]: n3?... such ugly shape
eurogotv [-\]: then go to http://eurogotv.com/n-index.htm
Wagaboo [-\]: mmh 1st i would make b group heavy
SunnyD [2d\]: ugly people needs loe too
eurogotv [-\]: but here is the "normal" site running again
USGO1 [-\]: Daniel checks his opponent's time... W: 1:30; B: 1:37
mw2a [1k\]: those 6 seconds will be significant
Sonatine [6k\]: not for me eurogo ,(
SunnyD [2d\]: M7
Iwish [5d\]: I like white
PeiPei15 [?\]: eurogotv has some problems...blocked by the server provider or sth else...but you can see the livestream
mw2a [1k\]: l4 seems logical next move
eurogotv [-\]: ok , so go to the back-up page i just gave u
dan2dan [1d\]: M4
Lyon [2d\]: one minute and change?
]
;W[gn]C[dan2dan [1d\]: Oooh
Lyon [2d\]: this is as far as they got 4 hours?!
dan2dan [1d\]: hours, i think
Lyon [2d\]: or an hour 30
Lyon [2d\]: oh thank god
mw2a [1k\]: 67 minutes
Wagaboo [-\]: aah w has the same idea :D
Lyon [2d\]: it would be 97
Wagaboo [-\]: make b heavy then take a big bottom
mw2a [1k\]: 97 what?
schelling [22k?\]: minutes
mw2a [1k\]: no... 53
]
;B[go]C[yzal: oh i thout j12...
marseye [9k\]: is the guy with the stripped shirt Yongfei ?
USGO1 [-\]: yes
ohman: ooh racy, a stripped shirt
marseye [9k\]: thx USGO, we can see you too then  ;)
marseye [9k\]: how funny, I thought he was a girl... :(   stupid me
Lyon [2d\]: you thought usgo was a girl?
schelling [22k?\]: what city is this being held in?
PeiPei15 [?\]: ö.Ö
SunnyD [2d\]: surprised W didn't come up with an answer to this already
Lyon [2d\]: some where in cali
]
;W[en]C[mw2a [1k\]: SANTA monica
baltimore [3k\]: Santa Barbara
mw2a [1k\]: close enough
smileface [12k\]: I thought it was san fransisco
yzal: what
luuthanhtu [12k\]: is this game unlimited time?
SunnyD [2d\]: mw2a, please stop spreading false information
Lyon [2d\]: no
Lyon [2d\]: hour twenty minutes
mw2a [1k\]: not even correct gender, smileface
ohman: lol
smileface [12k\]: ;)
mw2a [1k\]: or you know, 2 hours
mw2a [1k\]: 1h20m... what
Lyon [2d\]: oh
tamagotchi [8k\]: e5?
Lyon [2d\]: haha i thought that said 1:20
Lyon [2d\]: not 120
Lyon [2d\]: whoops
mw2a [1k\]: and eurogo also said both players have > 1h20m left :p
]
;B[dl]C[mw2a [1k\]: not eurogo, usgo
Lyon [2d\]: yeah i even commented on tha
Lyon [2d\]: t
Lyon [2d\]: just a brain fart
ohman: language
Lyon [2d\]: let the admins admin
Iwish [5d\]: e7?
Lyon [2d\]: think this move back fired on white
Lyon [2d\]: a little
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: if he peeped j6 first then g6 was a lot more reasonable
Iwish [5d\]: I think E7 is a good move.
mw2a [1k\]: go, ko! go, ko!
RobinUpton [6d?\]: E7 or e7?
Lyon [2d\]: trade C8 for the cut ?
xio [6k\]: perhaps not
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei takes a stone from the bowl, but then changes his mind
sasasdd: what  makes e7 nice?
]
;W[ck]
;B[fn]C[Lyon [2d\]: how it is always giving back to the community, volunteering its time
mw2a [1k\]: e7 cut me off on the highway last week
SunnyD [2d\]: passing out juice to thirsty strangers 
sasasdd: d6?
mw2a [1k\]: no, e7. i never had a problem with his cousin, d6
PeiPei15 [?\]: Don't you mean Dae Hyuk, usgo1? It was his move...or am I a little bit too late ö.Ö maybe i didn't notice on the livestream...
]
;W[do]C[Lyon [2d\]: hahaha
mw2a [1k\]: i just got polled
xio [6k\]: that heavily depends on the coulour of the stone
Lyon [2d\]: i mean it works and i get it
Lyon [2d\]: but wow
]
;B[fl]C[Lyon [2d\]: m3
USGO1 [-\]: Theres a slight delay on the video stream, and perhaps a bigger delay with my comments, as I have to consentrate on recording the moves
Lyon [2d\]: or n3 might be possible cause black is still so weak
donkeyO [8d?\]: w got nothing from g6
]
;W[mq]C[PeiPei15 [?\]: hihi
]
;B[hi]
;W[dj]
;B[di]
;W[bj]C[Lyon [2d\]: i think E6 was actually the mistake?
]
;B[ci]C[xio [6k\]: e6 looked good when played but b is strong too
Lyon [2d\]: strong like ox ?
mgelo [2k\]: strong like the kibitz
xio [6k\]: like 7d ox
mw2a [1k\]: my oxen died while fording the river
USGO1 [-\]: both players step away from the board
xio [6k\]: it's safer to chrysler the river
mgelo [2k\]: strong like an ox, shifty like a fox
Iwish [5d\]: ok, following this sequence, w's weakness will be exposed to strong attack soon.
xio [6k\]: if they step away, the time is stopped?
USGO1 [-\]: w:79mins b:91mins
Iwish [5d\]: but I still like to be w
USGO1 [-\]: no, the clock still runs
xio [6k\]: good :)
mgelo [2k\]: W has more points atm?
xio [6k\]: they won't be too long away then
mw2a [1k\]: yeah, w is ahead i'd say
SunnyD [2d\]: B stones will die of dysentery
mw2a [1k\]: by at least komi
norg [6k\]: b is about to devour w's soul.
Iwish [5d\]: w's shape is more complete and efficient.
mw2a [1k\]: f15 k14 supper efficient
mgelo [2k\]: now they both need to run
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Hard for white to run with shape and keep connected to K12 here.
USGO1 [-\]: and now they return to their seats
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Seems black will be able to separate.
Iwish [5d\]: if w would go from E7, I thought that would run to victory more safely.
xio [6k\]: w seems to be leading, but his territory is not secure, it seesm
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Is K9 okay here, or is kosumi better?
mgelo [2k\]: if it's not secure dont count it
Iwish [5d\]: agree.
mgelo [2k\]: what about peep and L9?
RobinUpton [6d?\]: G18 may turn out to be of interest
Iwish [5d\]: the problem is how much territory w likes to give back in exchange of safe run-away.
luuthanhtu [12k\]: if b g13 what happen?
LeoMar [4k\]: if w got cut in g9, he could still make two eyes on the left side with b7 and b11?
mgelo [2k\]: W runs, B gets strong, adn later invades L3
BobWhoosta [1k\]: mgelo, you can count it if it's not secure, influence is worth something, so that a player can lead the game without any "secure" territory.
pinkrobot [1k\]: b6 better than b7
SunnyD [2d\]: L4 now and dare B
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Now THAT would be a move.
]
;W[ij]C[mgelo [2k\]: yup, 2 pts for thickness, -20pts for weak group
mw2a [1k\]: b6 hurts corner more
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei shakes his head as he plays this
Iwish [5d\]: I don't think w's J10 is a good move.
BobWhoosta [1k\]: It's a very sad move to play.
schelling [22k?\]: usgo can we please have the web address for the match up info tonight?
chussou [6k\]: I was thinking that I would play j10 myself, so it can't be the best move
mgelo [2k\]: K9 was too thin?
pinkrobot [1k\]: j10 very prudent
baltimore [3k\]: poke around at gocongress.org and you'll find lots of informatino
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Is black strong enough to tenuki?
]
;B[ii]
;W[ji]C[Iwish [5d\]: my opinion is that it is not meaningful to block the solid b stones.
mgelo [2k\]: he's strong enough not to
BobWhoosta [1k\]: mgelo, thank you for misunderstanding my question.
]
;B[hh]C[mgelo [2k\]: idc
mgelo [2k\]: ajicious
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Black sente reduction here?
]
;W[gg]C[Sonatine [6k\]: attaquious...
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei tsks and plays quickly
]
;B[ig]C[BobWhoosta [1k\]: USGO, was it a "Why are you playing this" tsk, or "Why did I allow this" tsk?
USGO1 [-\]: Daniel hovers over the position for a moment, then clicks it into place
mw2a [1k\]: he hovers?
mgelo [2k\]: his hand hovers
marseye [9k\]: well, nice shot, indeed
]
;W[jh]C[Iwish [5d\]: the situation has gotten dangerous to w.
pinkrobot [1k\]: true...and b is healthy all over
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei he shakes his head a bit and exhales a quiet breath
Iwish [5d\]: B's H13 is sente.
]
;B[hg]
;W[he]
;B[jk]C[BobWhoosta [1k\]: Is this a good move?
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Seems to peep a cut here...
mw2a [1k\]: w's shape so efficient
farmer [4d\]: H13 is wasted
pinkrobot [1k\]: what good would a cut be? k14 stones are alive and w k9 just pushes out of trouble while attacking h7 group
mgelo [2k\]: b G9 next?
USGO1 [-\]: they both stare deeply into the board, but not at the same area
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Play elsewhere and force white to defend the cut in gote by attacking the bottom or something, idk.
Iwish [5d\]: J10 made its shape broken.
]
;W[gj]C[chussou [6k\]: I love the physical description! :)
]
;B[fh]
;W[jj]C[dutch2dan [2d?\]: sounds terminal though
Iwish [5d\]: b'k9?
chussou [6k\]: time to move out for b
Iwish [5d\]: how about g9?
RobinUpton [6d?\]: Yeah, coomentary really adds to the game
VinnieC [17k?\]: watching the game is funny
mw2a [1k\]: coomentary > kibitz
Iwish [5d\]: w got limited benefit from here.
USGO1 [-\]: both plays seem hesitant with their moves, looking around the board just before playing
pinkrobot [1k\]: b will r10 area
]
;B[bo]C[USGO1 [-\]: Daniel clacks this one down firmly
Iwish [5d\]: white resumes its lead.
BobWhoosta [1k\]: **Waiting with baited breath for the next "CLACK!!!"**
JimmyPhan [7k\]: how to hear the commentary? 
AsiuKC [9k\]: gote?
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Oops, one kibitz too late.
pinkrobot [1k\]: maybe not. i would have though r10 bigger
]
;W[bp]C[USGO1 [-\]: a quick but silent response
whatwhat [1k\]: L3 big too
pinkrobot [1k\]: but i guess whoever plays at r10 will face immediate invasion...so maybe not as important
BobWhoosta [1k\]: USGO, have you ever thought of commentating on golf?
BobWhoosta [1k\]: You might actually make that game a bit more interesting.
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei takes his empty cup for a refill
baltimore [3k\]: live stream: www.eurogotv.com
dutch2dan [2d?\]: b r 11?
mgelo [2k\]: euro?
mw2a [1k\]: youngfei fills his cup with ice cubes and patiently waits for sip of water
Sonatine [6k\]: USGO, you write like a sherlock homs' book ;)
mgelo [2k\]: one ice cube is not like the others: it's slightly cracked
BobWhoosta [1k\]: It is said that a 9d can survive for months at a time on the dew of a single ginko leaf and the energy of the universe.
]
;B[lq]C[mw2a [1k\]: youngfei removes the cracked ice cube and glares at its imperfection. he discards it
crux00 [5k?\]: Youngfei lifts the cups to his lips, then pauses. A slight tremble can be seen in his right eyebrow, but otherwise all is as calm as the ocean at sunrise.
VinnieC [17k?\]: Yongfei is nervious u can see it on him while dan seems more calm
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei checks Daniel's time
Lychee [3k\]: is there a website thats streaming???
mw2a [1k\]: youngfei puts on a fez and declares that they are cool
VinnieC [17k?\]: yea
baltimore [3k\]: http://www.eurogotv.com
USGO1 [-\]: Daniel now checks Yongfei's time
Lychee [3k\]: ty
AsiuKC [9k\]:                                                                           
mw2a [1k\]: youngfei checks daniel checking his time
whuang [2k\]: Hello
USGO1 [-\]: W:66 mins ; B:83 mins
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Yongfei calls the arbiter to complain that Daniel is copying him.
MoonWalker [2d\]: lolz
BobWhoosta [1k\]: The arbiter declares a timeout for Daniel.
AsiuKC [9k\]:                                                                  
VinnieC [17k?\]: sigh... shh ur runining it
pinkrobot [1k\]: m3 is very harsh move...i have no idea what would be best response
mw2a [1k\]: daniel asks where is the corner in a round room
farmer [4d\]: no coping is not in the rule
pinkrobot [1k\]: just L3?
mgelo [2k\]: i wondered if B could afford L3 so it seems M3 is better
mw2a [1k\]: you cannot cope with anything. you must wail and protest
LeoMar [4k\]: b seems to be counting
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Daniel sits in the corner, muttering "Yongfei is a doodyhead..."
mgelo [2k\]: Bob, write 50 times "I'm not funny"
VinnieC [17k?\]: wow lol 5-0 saying dan goin to win
mgelo [2k\]: who 5-0?
pflame [5k\]: its 6-3 now
VinnieC [17k?\]: yep
pflame [5k\]: poll on the streaming site
BobWhoosta [1k\]: mgelo, why so uptight?  Maybe you should focus, achieve 1k?
pinkrobot [1k\]: because b still not alive w/ f7 group, i would m4
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;W[lp]C[marseye [9k\]: well yongfei has been impressive yesterday
Tictactoe [-\]: Goodday dennis
]
;B[mr]C[BobWhoosta [1k\]: I agree marseye...  Lots of fun to watch that game.
USGO1 [-\]: Clack!
VinnieC [17k?\]: BOOM
mw2a [1k\]: marseye, i think your tenses are confused
RobinUpton [6d?\]: *Charges BobWhoosta with 'rankism' ;)
marseye [9k\]: i'm french, sorry
mw2a [1k\]: np
mw2a [1k\]: just teasing you :p
Lychee [3k\]: wish the stream was from the side instead of behind yongfei
BobWhoosta [1k\]: heh, RobinUpton.
Lychee [3k\]: cant really see the board
BobWhoosta [1k\]: I will accept that from you, as you are 6d.
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei Ge 7d is a Canadian player. He has won the US Open twice, and represented Canada in the 2006 and 2010 World Amateur Go Championship
Sonatine [6k\]: nobody's perfect...i'm french too
ohman: `n1
VinnieC [17k?\]: and Dan?
BobWhoosta [1k\]: This attack is going to net black a huge corner if white isn't careful.
marseye [9k\]: +1 Sonatine
USGO1 [-\]: Dae Hyuk (Daniel) Ko 7d is an American amateur player. In 2009, he represented North America in the Samsung Cup, winning a preliminary round against Kim Jinwoo 4p. He plays on KGS as chunga.
RobinUpton [6d?\]: *Smirks as BobW failed to notice I am a fake 6d
BobWhoosta [1k\]: No no sir, unlike KGS I never question 6d.
mgelo [2k\]: yeah i was 2d? once
dutch2dan [2d?\]: fake or not>
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;W[lr]
;B[kq]
;W[nr]C[ohman:  [7d\]: really?
dutch2dan [2d?\]: ** > == ?
]
;B[mp]
;W[nq]C[BobWhoosta [1k\]: Well, I did once.
BobWhoosta [1k\]: But I don't care to repeat that story...
mgelo [2k\]: mutual annihilation
Tictactoe [-\]: you are a uberfake edgar
MoonWalker [2d\]: woa is that old man USGO ?
mw2a [1k\]: edgar is the real king. he flipped for it
dutch2dan [2d?\]: tictactoe.... mind your mannrs
mw2a [1k\]: ofc, it was a fixed coin. >< the cheat
pinkrobot [1k\]: b h3?
dutch2dan [2d?\]: (if any)
RobinUpton [6d?\]: I made a radio show exposing 'rankism'- http://www.unwelcomeguests.net/507
BobWhoosta [1k\]: If black gets weak and separated, this could end very badly for him.
Tictactoe [-\]: me manners i invited rule number2
dutch2dan [2d?\]: atari?
Sonatine [6k\]: why plays M3?
pinkrobot [1k\]: m3 massive reducing move
marseye [9k\]: who makes the polls ?
Tictactoe [-\]: blackloos rather weak in the centre to start fighting here
mgelo [2k\]: how are the polls now?
]
;B[kr]C[dutch2dan [2d?\]: b aiming k5?
pinkrobot [1k\]: only options are m5 and n1, right?
VinnieC [17k?\]: Dan walks away
USGO1 [-\]: Daniel takes his empty cup for a refill
mw2a [1k\]: daniel must have a bladder the size of a keg
xio [6k\]: not his move anyway
dutch2dan [2d?\]: a large one, I presume :)
mgelo [2k\]: maybe drinking water betrays his nervousness
]
;W[kp]C[marseye [9k\]: what's in the cups ?
VinnieC [17k?\]: do they get a choice to drink? like mountain dew?
]
;B[ls]C[xio [6k\]: or thirstyness
mgelo [2k\]: oh snap i though W would n1
mw2a [1k\]: when does the tic-tac-toe congress begin?
xio [6k\]: I can't guess w idea now
Tictactoe [-\]: mgelo are you dutch
mgelo [2k\]: no but i've been to Netherlands
PistolPete [4k?\]: w attacking center group
mw2a [1k\]: moar poll
luuthanhtu [12k\]: j2?
RobinUpton [6d?\]: DEWmocracy is a fake choice: http://www.unwelcomeguests.net/516
AsiuKC [9k\]: tesuij
Tictactoe [-\]: how on earth could you ever go to that forsaken place 
mw2a [1k\]: stop advertising your website
mgelo [2k\]: i liked it
pinkrobot [1k\]: m8?
pinkrobot [1k\]: or j6 first maybe?
]
;W[pp]C[PistolPete [4k?\]: not yet
PistolPete [4k?\]: bottom is not settled
mgelo [2k\]: O3 is important
Iwish [5d\]: hopefully w will not make a sudden death move like yesterday.
PistolPete [4k?\]: but i think that it was the idea behind L4
sensemaker [4d\]: what round now? is this first table?
ohman: 5-1
]
;B[qp]C[Tictactoe [-\]: fifth round i thought
]
;W[op]C[MoonWalker [2d\]: where can i find the progress of this tournament
baltimore [3k\]: gocongress.com
Iwish [5d\]: if b O4, then w R4?
mw2a [1k\]: http://www.gocongress.org/
baltimore [3k\]: .org
MoonWalker [2d\]: oh thx
VinnieC [17k?\]: mike redman GO!
ohman: GO HOME!
USGO1 [-\]: 2011 US Open pairings can be found online at http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/102 . Check back for updated pairings, results and game records throughout the week.
VinnieC [17k?\]: so wat time is the NAIM
mw2a [1k\]: 7pm pdt
USGO1 [-\]: The Masters will begin at 7pm pacific
]
;B[ir]C[Iwish [5d\]: P4 is safer than Q2.
mw2a [1k\]: that's something like GMT-7
USGO1 [-\]: yeah, something like that
]
;W[in]C[Illyria [?\]: GMT -8
mw2a [1k\]: GMT-8 would be PST, i think
greatdane [3k?\]: GMT -7 was the 2010 congress
greatdane [3k?\]: next year is GMT -9
greatdane [3k?\]: somewhere in the pacific
USGO1 [-\]: its almost 11am now -- what time is that in GMT?
Illyria [?\]: oh, silly daylight savings time
]
;B[hl]C[VinnieC [17k?\]: were is the next congress
baltimore [3k\]: North Carolina
baltimore [3k\]: gmt-5
sevigny [6k?\]: nc?  really?
VinnieC [17k?\]: NICE!!!!
greatdane [3k?\]: now the pattern is ruined
mw2a [1k\]: GMT-5 is EST!
VinnieC [17k?\]: now i can GO
baltimore [3k\]: north carolina is est
VinnieC [17k?\]: lol
mw2a [1k\]: not during summer1
mw2a [1k\]: !
MeSSed [6k?\]: north carolina has black widow spiders ;3;
ohman: b seems to have turned this game around
ohman: very nice
ohman: assuming he survives :)
]
;W[qm]C[xio [6k\]: survives where?
mw2a [1k\]: assuming he survives and w isn't able to make a lot of points by attacking
AsiuKC [9k\]: gote?
Tictactoe [-\]: j8-group is rather weak
ohman: w should have just n5?
]
;B[pm]C[Tictactoe [-\]: n5 and r3 are miai
xio [6k\]: r3 dies
LeoMar [4k\]: r3 works?!
marseye [9k\]: USGO : You may be in the GMT-7 zone. It's 8:00pm in fFrance (GMT+2)
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei was sitting back with a far away stare, but sat up quickly with this move
ohman: lol USGO is a poet :)
marseye [9k\]: USGO has plenty of time  :)
]
;W[qq]C[xio [6k\]: r2
Iwish [5d\]: good strikeback
Tictactoe [-\]: yes the m3 move of black has turned out well for him, so white is probably contemplating if he missed something here
mw2a [1k\]: youngei is white/daniel is black/white has the komi/and a better position, too
ohman: are you/sure?
pinkrobot [1k\]: this will take a nice bit out of corner and give life...
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei sighs a bit and punches the clock hurriedly
xio [6k\]: m1 he missed ;)
Iwish [5d\]: good timing.
USGO1 [-\]: then he steps away for another refill
]
;B[rq]
;W[qr]C[ohman: lol@tiny tot playing behind them :)
]
;B[rr]C[ohman: can barely reach over the desk
MoonWalker [2d\]: i though people with the same score will face each other
mw2a [1k\]: and hhe would destroy you ohman
Iwish [5d\]: appreciate R3!
SergeyASh [9k\]: nice
ViperDee [3k\]: on the dark side of the moon
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei is the only undefeated player in the top bracket of the Open
]
;W[qn]C[Tictactoe [-\]: it's standard pattern for a dutch 2d
Iwish [5d\]: b dared not go R2.
fatalmove: r3 still gote
]
;B[po]C[MoonWalker [2d\]: ah, so there are different brackets
LeoMar [4k\]: iwish: i was about to ask why he didn't r2
USGO1 [-\]: MacMann (sp) bands
Iwish [5d\]: OK, then b' weakness around Q7 would be exposed.
ohman: lets welcome our new USGO overlord
USGO1 [-\]: McMahon
gryn [2k\]: Macmann Turner Overdrive?
]
;W[pn]
;B[oo]C[Iwish [5d\]: if b R2,then w S3, which would be helpful for w's upper fight.
xio [6k\]: this is becoming sente
pinkrobot [1k\]: w got miai w/ r3 rather than gote...that's cool
Tictactoe [-\]: r2 s3 p2 s2 p3 q2 q5 
USGO1 [-\]: If the shaking of Yongfei's head and his sighs were words, I think they would say that this sequence can't be helped.
]
;W[pr]
;B[mo]
;W[ns]C[Iwish [5d\]: w performs professional around right bottom corner.
]
;B[jp]C[LeeTekSum [3d\]: not good for w
ohman: b winning this now, for sure
ohman: w's attack on C6 ended in fiasco
fatalmove: not clear i think
pinkrobot [1k\]: m3 was perfectly timed...or else yongfei should have played differently
]
;W[jo]C[xio [6k\]: or better
]
;B[jq]C[ohman: or against a weaker opponent
mw2a [1k\]: m3 was perfectly timed... or else the sjy wouldn't be blue
mw2a [1k\]: sky*
marseye [9k\]: Chinese proverb : "you don't have to sell the bear's skin... No, no, you don't have to sell it"
ohman: deep
]
;W[ln]
;B[mn]C[marseye [9k\]: L6
marseye [9k\]: (must be better with "fur" instead of "skin" in English...)
xio [6k\]: h5 may become troubleome for w
Tictactoe [-\]: so here is a frenchman seling dutch proverbs to be chinese
ohman: w thin like emental cheese... no more attack
]
;W[hq]C[Iwish [5d\]: good defensive
xio [6k\]: agreed
pinkrobot [1k\]: h3 works very well
]
;B[lm]C[RobinUpton [6d?\]: Defends and threatens k1
marseye [9k\]: oh! I think it's an international proverb, i'd say...
marseye [9k\]: white seems  to be in a bad position now
Tictactoe [-\]: at least it's a hairy one ^^
]
;W[ko]
;B[ho]
;W[io]C[marseye [9k\]: But we, frenchies, have the complete one  !
xio [6k\]: ok, how about k1?
pinkrobot [1k\]: n1 required, right?
eurogotv [-\]: live TV stream of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US or if its not working for you on http://hw9x9.nl/EuroGoTV/index.htm
ohman: k1 better
]
;B[gr]C[USGO1 [-\]: clack!
Tictactoe [-\]: what's the point of playing k1 if l4 dies?
marseye [9k\]: what a redux !
ohman: what's the point of playing when you win?
lolp [14k?\]: l4 dies? how?
mw2a [1k\]: redux does not mean reduction
]
;W[hr]C[xio [6k\]: if b h4
Tictactoe [-\]: white k1 black would j5
Elscouta [1d\]: h1 k1 and fun
]
;B[js]C[Elscouta [1d\]: aw
xio [6k\]: b wanted to k1 in sente
marseye [9k\]: I shouldn't have given my vote to Yongfei... Anyone who's given my vote loses  :(
Tictactoe [-\]: dae hyuk bites lip, he missd something here
Wagaboo [-\]: now w play on the right
pinkrobot [1k\]: is there a japanese term for clever little defensive moves like h3 and g2?
lolp [14k?\]: if B play h4 and W decide to ignore, then L4 die, right?
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei exclams something quietly and puts his hands on his face
slowcooker [1d\]: cuz w will play on the right
Tictactoe [-\]: n7 seems to much q9 seems just fine
Sonatine [6k\]: H1N1, and your are sick?
mw2a [1k\]: w can tenuki?
Elscouta [1d\]: yes
xio [6k\]: I think w can tenuki
Iwish [5d\]: b got gote?
Wagaboo [-\]: w tenuki plz
LeeTekSum [3d\]: b sente
xio [6k\]: but if b h1 w has to reply
Tictactoe [-\]: yes g2 was an overplay
pinkrobot [1k\]: e3 is danger?
luuthanhtu [12k\]: h1 is necessary?
Wagaboo [-\]: b h1 is small
mfg [8k?\]: will there be another game after this one?
LeeTekSum [3d\]: w has to h1
whatwhat [1k\]: n7 interesting...
xio [6k\]: b h1 threatens h4
USGO1 [-\]: Yixian (missbear) Zhou 7d is watching from the sidelines and has a big grin on his face
]
;W[hs]
;B[qk]C[xio [6k\]: b happy to get sente
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei punches the clock hard, and Daniel slams that stone down
Iwish [5d\]: w is so conservative.
Tictactoe [-\]: yes h1 is stubborn q9 was better for white
BobWhoosta [1k\]: I would agree, this result is only ko, right?
Wagaboo [-\]: Zhou'sfrin is for B or W?
BobWhoosta [1k\]: If white decides to play another move that is...
MoonWalker [2d\]: b seems very confident now
Iwish [5d\]: this seems w's hallmark.
Gosu [-\]: h1 is needed because of h4
]
;W[pl]C[sevigny [6k?\]: thx for the commentary usgo
]
;B[pk]
;W[ol]C[farmer [4d\]: b lost
Wagaboo [-\]: yeah now b win the game, b doesn't have enough points
farmer [4d\]: white lost
BobWhoosta [1k\]: This seems a hard fight for white.
ohman: w lost long time ago, sherlock
Wagaboo [-\]: w*
xio [6k\]: I'm not sure if b would gladly h4, as w j3 threatens b group's life
LeeTekSum [3d\]: b has the upper hand
Gosu [-\]: seems both lost
ShapeMaker [4k\]: both winning
baklava [1d\]: farmer there are no other options left
mw2a [1k\]: yes, there is
mw2a [1k\]: triple ko
slowcooker [1d\]: JIGO
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Yes ShapeMaker, but who is winning more?
ShapeMaker [4k\]: I am
mw2a [1k\]: can't jigo
ohman: let's compare the size of our wins
xio [6k\]: they can jigo if there is a half point ko
Gosu [-\]: no...
mw2a [1k\]: ...
]
;B[ml]C[mgelo [2k\]: no jigo in ING rules
xDragon [-\]: come on that was a good joke
BobWhoosta [1k\]: xio, half point ko is a full point, just nicknamed half point.
slowcooker [1d\]: is there an escaper rule?
]
;W[ok]C[mw2a [1k\]: escapers will be shot on sight
Gosu [-\]: i think he knows :)
xDragon [-\]: you people. quit taking every statement so seriously
dutch2dan [2d?\]: time left?
xio [6k\]: ofkors ;)
BobWhoosta [1k\]: xDragon, I refuse to take that comment seriously.
mw2a [1k\]: this is america. everyone at the congress is armed
xDragon [-\]: the ole catch 22
ShapeMaker [4k\]: <moderator mode><bold>Please keep comments related to the game</bold></moderator mode>
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Absolutely...
mw2a [1k\]: please do not impersonate mods
ShapeMaker [4k\]: mw2a, corner!
Gosu [-\]: yes, fake mod mode = idiot mode
ShapeMaker [4k\]: and wear a hat!
mgelo [2k\]: mod squad
ShapeMaker [4k\]: :D
Tictactoe [-\]: nobody suspect ksu
Stefany93 [7k?\]: Is there a live broadcast of the game?
USGO1 [-\]: Daniel starts to play somewhere around the r12 area, but then changes his mind quickly
Anthony22 [2k\]: lol
pinkrobot [1k\]: w's only got about 40 points
SunnyD [2d\]: he is trying to get a read from Ge
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei steps away from the table while Danny rethinks his move
slowcooker [1d\]: blood
xio [6k\]: perhaps p10 before r12
BobWhoosta [1k\]: P12 is wonky shape.
slowcooker [1d\]: b cant afford r12 imo
Ellisdee [5k\]: how much time do they have?
Gosu [-\]: 120 minutes each approximately
SunnyD [2d\]: Canadian's life expectancy is 78
sevigny [6k?\]: can b afford no base?
BobWhoosta [1k\]: P11 maybe?
Anthony22 [2k\]: is it sunny?
]
;B[qg]C[taizen [?\]: I'd say w has 45 or more, plus komi
Anthony22 [2k\]: though it was 84 or something
xio [6k\]: for a while he can do without a base I guess
BobWhoosta [1k\]: GREAT move.
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Black is playing inspired go with these last two fights.
xio [6k\]: looks like a missclick, though
pinkrobot [1k\]: w is ahead unless b makes good points here
mgelo [2k\]: the final, deadly lean attack
BobWhoosta [1k\]: xio, it's great, black is leaning on the white corner to get some stones in sente.
fatalmove: yes r12 w
slowcooker [1d\]: b wants to cut with this move?
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei returns, Daniel points to his last move
pinkrobot [1k\]: as long as q8 is alive, w can just s13 and push
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Black is looking to aim at N10??
Gosu [-\]: thank god, w would have searched for hours :)
TheHood [2k\]: kind of hard to miss if you ask me :D
mgelo [2k\]: this game?
ShapeMaker [4k\]: how is board number determined?
USGO1 [-\]: Daniel steps away now
ShapeMaker [4k\]: by rank?
Gosu [-\]: it's sequential from 1 :)
mgelo [2k\]: they are all seeded, it's Swiss system
ShapeMaker [4k\]: very nice, Gosu :)
ShapeMaker [4k\]: ok
ShapeMaker [4k\]: thx
LeoMar [4k\]: can w r12?
mgelo [2k\]: i doubt that w can r12, seems bad for corner
LeeTekSum [3d\]: r12 is a 9d move, LeoMar
LeeTekSum [3d\]: but he's only 7d, so he can't
slowcooker [1d\]: q11
LeoMar [4k\]: i see :)
pinkrobot [1k\]: danger for p8 is too much for r12, i would think....
USGO1 [-\]: "The Kid", 13 year old ZiYang Hu 1p just defeated Mingming (Stephanie) Yin 1p on board 2
mgelo [2k\]: w cant simply nobi here, right?
Timex: who won zchen game?
mgelo [2k\]: is he from China?
xio [6k\]: wow
xDragon [-\]: yes
mgelo [2k\]: 13yr 1p omg
Polonaise [2d?\]: omg?
liquescens [1k\]: where is review?
USGO1 [-\]: I believe he lives in Canada
Oriandon [17k\]: Woah. He's only 13?
mgelo [2k\]: but he got his 1p in China?
USGO1 [-\]: yes, one month ago
fatalmove: doesnt w need r12  because of p9 
pinkrobot [1k\]: i think w will q11
mgelo [2k\]: most US soccer prospects are also foreign-born
]
;W[rg]C[mgelo [2k\]: *male soccer
trout [4d\]: he(1p) should have gone to samsung cup.
LeeTekSum [3d\]: w played safe,, to go under
]
;B[rh]C[USGO1 [-\]: Daniel slaps that one down
mgelo [2k\]: "go under" is the opposite of safe
LeeTekSum [3d\]: really? mgelo
simplet [3d\]: if he does it a safe way, it is
mgelo [2k\]: just trollin
slowcooker [1d\]: depends what is over?
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei motions his fingers over the board as if to help visulaize what he's reading out
LeeTekSum [3d\]: now w will atari
ohman: native caucasians cannot compare to asian go players, in these tournaments top-4 usually all asian-descent
]
;W[rf]C[slowcooker [1d\]: are we talking about starcraft?
ohman: every now and then a native wins, and it's big news
]
;B[oj]C[LeeTekSum [3d\]: native caucasians are dump
]
;W[nj]C[simplet [3d\]: here we go
]
;B[oi]
;W[mk]C[Ariachi [10k\]: R 12 ?
mgelo [2k\]: huh W is safely home
ohman: seems comfy win for b
]
;B[pg]C[geyingbin [1d\]: Racial attack should be punished IMHO.
mw2a [1k\]: i agree
]
;W[kl]C[LeeTekSum [3d\]: not working, but ok
ohman: but can 3d be punished?
qp [?\]: instaboot for stupidity. 3d, 23k, whatever
USGO1 [-\]: Daniel lets out a small groan
mw2a [1k\]: kgs mods hardly every do anything but warn these days, though
simplet [3d\]: just l7
]
;B[km]
;W[kk]
;B[jl]C[LeeTekSum [3d\]: end game start from here
]
;W[pb]C[LeeTekSum [3d\]: q18
LeeTekSum [3d\]: sente
xio [6k\]: w+4?
simplet [3d\]: yes
Iwish [5d\]: every thing big settled down.
simplet [3d\]: and no
]
;B[ap]
;W[aq]
;B[ao]
;W[br]
;B[bi]C[Iwish [5d\]: no chance for b any more
USGO1 [-\]: Clack! 
ohman: b still ahead
]
;W[nm]C[Imp20 [3k\]: I get w+2
]
;B[mm]C[LeeTekSum [3d\]: w will win by 6.5
]
;W[ri]C[xio [6k\]: o18 now?
LeeTekSum [3d\]: o18 is big
]
;B[qi]
;W[sh]C[Iwish [5d\]: O7 prepared for S11
simplet [3d\]: o7 was for that ^^
]
;B[rj]
;W[qh]
;B[ph]C[Iwish [5d\]: w leads a lot.
LeeTekSum [3d\]: o7 is just sente
]
;W[nb]
;B[ob]
;W[oa]C[simplet [3d\]: no, it prevent r8 from being sente
]
;B[rs]C[ohman: H14 sente
LeeTekSum [3d\]: o4
xio [6k\]: se has w winning by a large margin
USGO1 [-\]: Daniel holds his finger on that stone for a long time after placing it
qp [?\]: se rules
]
;W[mb]C[LeeTekSum [3d\]: maybe 7.6
LeeTekSum [3d\]: 7.5
Iwish [5d\]: Ok, bots can take remaining moves.
]
;B[ps]
;W[oq]C[qp [?\]: until you lift finge from stone, can undo?
]
;B[qs]
;W[os]
;B[lb]C[SeanPenn [9k\]: cant
]
;W[ms]C[donkeyO [8d?\]: resign
qp [?\]: once placed, cant remove even with hand still in contact with stone?
simplet [3d\]: this is not draught eh
mw2a [1k\]: b has so little territory
]
;B[lr]
;W[iq]
;B[is]
;W[dg]
;B[cg]C[xio [6k\]: did w just waste 2 ko threats?
simplet [3d\]: what ko
LeeTekSum [3d\]: s6 is big
SunnyD [2d\]: Danny Ko
SSBMeta [11k\]: ^ ^ ^
xio [6k\]: if w e14 now there can easily be a ko
]
;W[rh]C[xio [6k\]: or that one 
]
;B[lk]
;W[lj]
;B[ll]C[simplet [3d\]: yes
Iwish [5d\]: flashlights for this game is around right bottom corner.
SergeyASh [9k\]: n17?
]
;W[kj]C[spot [4k\]: s6 still looks good
Iwish [5d\]: w passed through entangling and subtle fights there.
spot [4k\]: e4 for b
]
;B[on]
;W[om]
;B[hf]
;W[ge]C[dan2dan [1d\]: oh wow
dan2dan [1d\]: a couple of hours later, this game still on
Iwish [5d\]: S12 declared W's victory.
USGO1 [-\]: I can't see white's clock, but black still has 52 mins
SergeyASh [9k\]: w ~+10 imho
ohman: q15
]
;B[fp]C[simplet [3d\]: doesnt daniel push on the magic button?
LeeTekSum [3d\]: iwish you're rite
norg [6k\]: Even without the dead stones se puts w far enough ahead that b should resign.
Illyria [?\]: That's what SE said.
qp [?\]: lol
SeanPenn [9k\]: e12 big imo
]
;W[gq]C[SeanPenn [9k\]: for w
LeeTekSum [3d\]: SE said too much bull shit
qp [?\]: instaboot
simplet [3d\]: e12 is no points
simplet [3d\]: just sente dame
]
;B[ro]C[pinkrobot [1k\]: w has 7.5 komi, too?
]
;W[pf]
;B[of]
;W[ni]C[thiMan [2k?\]: p15
]
;B[nh]
;W[rl]C[SeanPenn [9k\]: simplet what if black plays E13?
]
;B[pd]C[simplet [3d\]: e14
]
;W[qc]C[mw2a [1k\]: w+7
thiMan [2k?\]: then white e14
SeanPenn [9k\]: D12
]
;B[rn]C[mw2a [1k\]: someone hit a tin gong
simplet [3d\]: d15
pinkrobot [1k\]: a9 biggest?
]
;W[ak]C[marseye [9k\]: it's funny at that rank to have 5x30s byo after a 2 hours game, when they know the board perfectly
]
;B[pe]C[mw2a [1k\]: b7 
Tsuijin [2d\]: sometimes someone else will know it more perfectly
taizen [?\]: They might use up the time in the middle game and not have time to think out the endgame
simplet [3d\]: s9
pinkrobot [1k\]: k19?
]
;W[lg]
;B[lf]C[baltimore [3k\]: w has 19 minutes
simplet [3d\]: t10 rather *
]
;W[ep]C[pinkrobot [1k\]: h6 i missed
Iwish [5d\]: w's safe mode
mfg [8k?\]: what about black B7?
Iwish [5d\]: B7 is better.
pinkrobot [1k\]: how did this happen...i thought b looked great until the h3 move
USGO1 [-\]: w: 19mins; b: 47mins
mw2a [1k\]: your positional judgement isn't great?
donkeyO [8d?\]: r8
Iwish [5d\]: you got confused.
]
;B[bm]C[pinkrobot [1k\]: hah ... that makes the most sense of anything i've heard on this kibitz
waretsuyla [3k\]: the yose seems small for black
]
;W[eh]
;B[ei]C[LeeTekSum [3d\]: donkey, r8 only 1 point
Iwish [5d\]: Yongfei is too conservative imho.
]
;W[hn]C[taizen [?\]: w ahead by komi
donkeyO [8d?\]: still sente
LeeTekSum [3d\]: true
]
;B[rk]C[xio [6k\]: b might have wanted this liberty
]
;W[ql]C[Imp20 [3k\]: o8
LeeTekSum [3d\]: s9 no point?
donkeyO [8d?\]: no point
simplet [3d\]: t10 connected
Imp20 [3k\]: s9 is like 2 pt gote
mw2a [1k\]: o8 point
simplet [3d\]: making some points
donkeyO [8d?\]: s9 no point
Imp20 [3k\]: if w got s9 then b would lose the r10 pt
ohman: o19
simplet [3d\]: no point at r10
Imp20 [3k\]: oh your right heh
donkeyO [8d?\]: thinking resign?
Imp20 [3k\]: but prevents w from getting t11 pt maybe
LeeTekSum [3d\]: counting maybe
simplet [3d\]: yes
LeeTekSum [3d\]: should resign earlier
LeeTekSum [3d\]: might as well finish it
donkeyO [8d?\]: w +13.5
]
;B[qe]
;W[re]C[mw2a [1k\]: 8d uses se
donkeyO [8d?\]: why not?
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei looks relaxed, Daniel is starting to look a little tired
]
;B[ia]
;W[ha]
;B[ja]C[brooklyn [3d\]: b is toast
Imp20 [3k\]: w + 10
Wagaboo [-\]: Yongfei is very strong !
]
;W[la]C[LeeTekSum [3d\]: Daniel realize that there is no way he can win
Imp20 [3k\]: even if b gets all the end game points from here on.. w will win
Mocramis [3k\]: G19 ?
SergeyASh [9k\]: me more like n17 m17 o16 )
simplet [3d\]: nan 
simplet [3d\]: koi après g19
]
;B[nc]C[Imp20 [3k\]: n17 is dame
Mocramis [3k\]: simpet i really needs to stop confusing 1 and 2
]
;W[da]C[mw2a [1k\]: so you meant g29? i see
]
;B[ea]C[xio [6k\]: no it isn't
simplet [3d\]: ^^
]
;W[eb]C[Iwish [5d\]: w suddenly become aggresive.
hamsturinn [14k\]: ouch
Imp20 [3k\]: ok... n17 is sente dame
Iwish [5d\]: funny swerve.
Imp20 [3k\]: hows that?
Mocramis [3k\]: mw2a: i just counted 2 liberties instead of one.
]
;B[ca]
;W[fa]C[xio [6k\]: actually n17 is 1 point gote
LeeTekSum [3d\]: can't connect
simplet [3d\]: e12 and d19 are linked
Imp20 [3k\]: no because b always has to play m17
mw2a [1k\]: n17 nada
Nation [4k\]: horray for connecting and dying
Iwish [5d\]: b better saves his energy for next game.
simplet [3d\]: same sequence of moves
LeeTekSum [3d\]: black has a poor end game
brooklyn [3d\]: yongfei ge is about to be 5-0. damn
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Is white winning?
mw2a [1k\]: 50? he looks younger than that
hamsturinn [14k\]: c16 the only move ?
thiMan [2k?\]: b8
hamsturinn [14k\]: black is forded to respond i mean
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei folds his arms, and almost looks impatient
LeeTekSum [3d\]: d15 maybe
]
;B[mh]
;W[mi]
;B[bl]
;W[bk]C[MoonWalker [2d\]: why is he shaking his legs....
]
;B[al]C[Iwish [5d\]: Yongfei is a smart computer architect.
]
;W[ai]
;B[ah]C[LeeTekSum [3d\]: o8 blacke sente
]
;W[im]
;B[il]C[ohman: computer architect? what on earth is that
Nation [4k\]: .....
Lilltiger [-\]: Yuo make building out of computers
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei always shakes his legs while playing
Lilltiger [-\]: you..
Lilltiger [-\]: +s
LeeTekSum [3d\]: he build comuter cases
tamagotchi [8k\]: ?
]
;W[nl]C[mw2a [1k\]: i thought you make computers out of buildings?
sevigny [6k?\]: builder of air castles
Wiggum [5k\]: that ko on the left is 1.5 points ;o
LeeTekSum [3d\]: bad habit
Fizyx [?\]: hahaha, best comment all game USGO1 :P
Iwish [5d\]: that helps with his thinking pulse.
]
;B[aj]C[thiMan [2k?\]: j14
]
;W[da]C[donkeyO [8d?\]: d15
simplet [3d\]: d15 only move
sevigny [6k?\]: gotta
Nation [4k\]: if he doesnt d15 hes got quite the monkey on his hands
Iwish [5d\]: ehow:How to Become a Computer Architect
]
;B[hb]
;W[ga]C[Nation [4k\]: woah
mw2a [1k\]: nothing
Nation [4k\]: yah I know, that's why i said woah
]
;B[ef]
;W[cd]C[Mocramis [3k\]: O_o
]
;B[ce]C[mw2a [1k\]: miss steak
]
;W[bd]C[simplet [3d\]: now hottie
sevigny [6k?\]: y
SergeyASh [9k\]: ko!
Tsuijin [2d\]: ...
LeeTekSum [3d\]: resign
donkeyO [8d?\]: trying to resign
Nation [4k\]: Apparently its a resign now
Jethro [11k\]: mistake?
Timex: did b go nuts?
Nation [4k\]: probably
LeeTekSum [3d\]: an excuse to resign
Nation [4k\]: biggest mistake all game
]
;B[bc]
;W[de]C[Tsuijin [2d\]: fight a ko this large near end of game is funny =)
Wagaboo [-\]: he is tired i guess it's a huge mistake
donkeyO [8d?\]: not a mistake
mw2a [1k\]: what does this ko gain b?
]
;B[hj]
;W[ik]C[tamagotchi [8k\]: ?
mw2a [1k\]: if he wins
]
;B[dd]C[o12345 [8k\]: w has more ko threats
]
;W[el]C[marseye [9k\]: cat vs mouse...
taizen [?\]: flower viewing for w
Iwish [5d\]: computer architects are like 9d in IT career.
SergeyASh [9k\]: ignore
Nation [4k\]: W sins lol, this is too funny
Tsuijin [2d\]: b can never ignore really
Nation [4k\]: wins*
Wagaboo [-\]: yup
Iwish [5d\]: what are they doing still?
Iwish [5d\]: totally waste energy.
]
;B[em]
;W[de]C[Nation [4k\]: B has no room to ignore
LeeTekSum [3d\]: w doesn't need this to win
Nation [4k\]: already won
LeeTekSum [3d\]: but winning this will make b resign
SergeyASh [9k\]: oh yes - cant ignore (w c7)
]
;B[gl]C[simplet [3d\]: why not ignore? white capture 2 stones
]
;W[gk]
;B[dd]C[LeeTekSum [3d\]: that's safe us sometime
]
;W[dn]C[Inglorious [2d?\]: o6
mw2a [1k\]: this silly
]
;B[cm]
;W[de]C[Nation [4k\]: giving a little food for thought maybe?
marseye [9k\]: Poor USGO1...
]
;B[bq]C[Lilltiger [-\]: ignore
hamsturinn [14k\]: ignore?
Nation [4k\]: .......ignore
simplet [3d\]: sure
Inglorious [2d?\]: no ignore
Iwish [5d\]: OK, make more sense for more fun they bring.
LeeTekSum [3d\]: maybe black trying to win by time
simplet [3d\]: d16
o12345 [8k\]: dont ignore you already have the win
]
;W[dd]C[Nation [4k\]: LOL
Lilltiger [-\]: this is sente
hamsturinn [14k\]: black dead
Tsuijin [2d\]: if the opponent hands you more points then just take it =)
xio [6k\]: now resign
Nation [4k\]: Resiiiign
USGO1 [-\]: Black resigns
Nation [4k\]: hehehe
cugel [1k\]: lol !
simplet [3d\]: sente bof so is a2 in a sense
Alaskan [8k\]: does yongfei look annoyed/ surprised?
Alaskan [8k\]: usgo?
Iwish [5d\]: b's effort is like churning something in the toilet.
Nation [4k\]: .......lol
donkeyO [8d?\]: why so happy when someone loses badly?
LeeTekSum [3d\]: bad table manner for black
ec1 [2d?\]: Thanks USGO1
Nation [4k\]: Not happy, Just a bit surprised at his play
hamsturinn [14k\]: did he resig?
ckrit [9k\]: yeah
hamsturinn [14k\]: resign*
marseye [9k\]: what they saying ?
hamsturinn [14k\]: k
Nation [4k\]: ty usgo1
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Fizyx [?\]: Thanks you!
cugel [1k\]: sire
cugel [1k\]: thx !!
SergeyASh [9k\]: tnx players! & usgo! )
marseye [9k\]: Thanks, USGO1, you are a smart guy. Congrats, Yongfei
LeeTekSum [3d\]: did yongfei beat a 7p yesterday?
Iwish [5d\]: Thanks for Yongfei's stun aroun the right bottom corner.
Iwish [5d\]: thanks to USGO1 too.
MiaiPie [26k?\]: Did black resign?
marseye [9k\]: of course
marseye [9k\]: in the very end
])
